New EU law

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New EU law

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The new EU law requieres, that a name not has to be given when registering to a Newsletter.
At the Moment this field is mandatory and should be changed to optional.

As well the subscribers list contains date and time of subscribing and unscubscribing.
In order to be legal, the whole process of registering has to be documented.
That means, we need date, time and ip-address of
1) registering
2) activating by doulbe-opt-in
3) unsubscribing (which should optionally end in an automatic deletion).

Is it intended to adapt Phoca email in this way?
Otherwise this fantastic and easy component is no longer useable for public websites.

A whish I have additionally:
The subscribers list should also contain coloums to have a quick view on which newsletters the user is subscribed to.
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Re: New EU law

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Hi, thank you for the ideas, I just now finished the work on Phoca Maps so I can take a look at it:

0) name optional - OK
0b) privacy checkbox will be added
1) date of registering - OK
1b) IP - OK
2) not sure if I understand what you mean with "activationg by double-opt-in"?
3) new option to delete the account after unsubscribing - OK.

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Re: New EU law

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Hi Jan, I really appreciate your instant reply.
What I mean in #2 is as follows:
Instead of simply saying yes or no in column "active user" (subscribers list) there should be given date, time and ip as soon as the subscriber clicked the activation link (after registration and sending the activation email).
As a welcomed result, we will have 3 columns: registration, activation, unsubscribation, in each we will see date/time/ip of the event.
And of course, only activated subscribers will recieve an newsletter.

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Re: New EU law

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But you can store to column only one type of value so should the IP be for all three columns:

registration_date - column type date-time
activation_date - column type date-time
unsubscription_date - column type date-time

should each column store the IP?
registration_ip - column type text
activation_ip - column type text
unsubscription_ip - column text

Other question is that storing additional columns with IP will make the situation with GDPR more complicated as IP belongs to data which are influenced by GDPR. :idea:

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Re: New EU law

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Hm, ok, I'm not a lawyer. The question is, if it is enough to have nothing but a date and a time and an email-address in order to proof, that THIS registered subscriber really wanted the newsletter. Having date and time of clicking the activation-link should be enough, shouldn't it? It*s not allowed to force a real name, so why should we be forced to have the IP :-)
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The IP is very specific case. First, website owners do not need any IP but IP is mostly needed by all the programs inside to e.g. protect from spam or to make any other type of protection. One user can have more IPs and more users can have one IP. So IP is really difficult to manage :-( IP is not in all the cases a personal information - if you connect to some website through some public wi-fi, how is the IP related to your person ???

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Re: New EU law

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So I think, your first proposal is exactly what we need:
1. registration_date - column type date-time
2. activation_date - column type date-time
3. unsubscription_date - column type date-time
Perfect!

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Ok
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